17001-17039 - HP014227-HP014265
17040-17104 - HP014268-HP014332
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Friday, January 20, 2017
Thursday, January 05, 2017
VINs of the new Diesel Buses
What is known so far:
So far all of the buses that have been delivered have been 45 foot buses denoted by P in the fourth digit of the VIN. If a bus is 40 foot, that will be an S. The lower case x will denote the check digit which is easily (?) computable for each bus within a group.
16000's are 2016 buses (VIN year code G)
16001 1M8PDMBA6GP14021 (NJT livery)
16002 1M8PDMBA5GP14060 (Academy livery)
I hear there are other 16000's
17000's are 2017 buses (VIN year code H)
17001-17023 1M8PDMBAxHP014227 through HP014249 (Coach USA Community)
17024-17028 no VINs yet (Coach USA Short Line)
17050 and 17053-17054 no VINs yet (Coach USA Suburban)
17063-17064 no VINs yet (Saddle River Tours - NOT Ameribus!, using the old style SRT livery. Really nice looking bus!)
So far all of the buses that have been delivered have been 45 foot buses denoted by P in the fourth digit of the VIN. If a bus is 40 foot, that will be an S. The lower case x will denote the check digit which is easily (?) computable for each bus within a group.
16000's are 2016 buses (VIN year code G)
16001 1M8PDMBA6GP14021 (NJT livery)
16002 1M8PDMBA5GP14060 (Academy livery)
I hear there are other 16000's
17000's are 2017 buses (VIN year code H)
17001-17023 1M8PDMBAxHP014227 through HP014249 (Coach USA Community)
17024-17028 no VINs yet (Coach USA Short Line)
17050 and 17053-17054 no VINs yet (Coach USA Suburban)
17063-17064 no VINs yet (Saddle River Tours - NOT Ameribus!, using the old style SRT livery. Really nice looking bus!)
Tuesday, January 03, 2017
The Bi-Annual Post?
Hello, it's been a few years, but I am back in the bus business.
For the past several days I have been trying to get Blogger to publish static pages. It does not seem to want to work, so it's entirely possible that I may be shutting down business here. I would really like to publish the roster data and pictures again, but a personal website does not seem to be the way to go any more. I shut down davemackey.com a few years ago due to lack of funds and minimal interest in the blogs I was hosting, finding social media to be a much better audience (and more targeted too).
I would love to start contributing my research (which is now spanning a 27-year period) to one of the several wikis that have sprung up. The cptdb.ca wiki seems to the the most likely candidate but I hear that only members can contribute data there. As I have records on nearly every bus that ran in the NJ Transit era, I would think that my research would be much welcomed, from both the standpoint of NJ Transit history as well as the histories of the companies involved.
That said, here are my gaps in knowledge:
1. Missing CONFIRMED front end (first 8 digits) VIN components from Flxible buses, mostly earlier models (the 870 non-rebuilds and Metro A and B models). I got a list of the rebuilds in the 2000 series (probably the work of Murray Kramer) a number of years ago and have used it to correct the listings on other wikis and websites that have perpetuated some errors in transcribing the data. Flxible VINs can be a bear with all the different codes for engines and body styles being the main sticking points. The complete 17-digit VINs on most of the other buses that have run for NJT have been verified, including all the Novas, MCI's, Eagles, Neoplans, Volvos and NABI units.
UPDATE: We have confirmed the 1000-1270 VINs as beginning with 1GF4AB6KxBD.... Still working on the others.
2. Those pesky DesignLine buses need to have their VINs matched up with the license numbers. I don't know which buses belong with which VINs and you can't really go in order with these, because production and delivery was so spotty. Copying my recent post on nyctransitforums....
For the past several days I have been trying to get Blogger to publish static pages. It does not seem to want to work, so it's entirely possible that I may be shutting down business here. I would really like to publish the roster data and pictures again, but a personal website does not seem to be the way to go any more. I shut down davemackey.com a few years ago due to lack of funds and minimal interest in the blogs I was hosting, finding social media to be a much better audience (and more targeted too).
I would love to start contributing my research (which is now spanning a 27-year period) to one of the several wikis that have sprung up. The cptdb.ca wiki seems to the the most likely candidate but I hear that only members can contribute data there. As I have records on nearly every bus that ran in the NJ Transit era, I would think that my research would be much welcomed, from both the standpoint of NJ Transit history as well as the histories of the companies involved.
That said, here are my gaps in knowledge:
1. Missing CONFIRMED front end (first 8 digits) VIN components from Flxible buses, mostly earlier models (the 870 non-rebuilds and Metro A and B models). I got a list of the rebuilds in the 2000 series (probably the work of Murray Kramer) a number of years ago and have used it to correct the listings on other wikis and websites that have perpetuated some errors in transcribing the data. Flxible VINs can be a bear with all the different codes for engines and body styles being the main sticking points. The complete 17-digit VINs on most of the other buses that have run for NJT have been verified, including all the Novas, MCI's, Eagles, Neoplans, Volvos and NABI units.
UPDATE: We have confirmed the 1000-1270 VINs as beginning with 1GF4AB6KxBD.... Still working on the others.
2. Those pesky DesignLine buses need to have their VINs matched up with the license numbers. I don't know which buses belong with which VINs and you can't really go in order with these, because production and delivery was so spotty. Copying my recent post on nyctransitforums....
Also, I have the 14 VINs for the DesignLine CNG buses... if anyone has old SAFER reports so we can match up the license plates to the VINS, that would be extra helpful.
The plates are: 7201-OYA6711 (I think this is CC665058), 7202-OYA5322, 7203-?, 7204-OYA6727, 7205-OYA6712, 7206-OYA6924, 7207-OYA6935, 7208-OYA6935, 7209-OYA6961 (VIN is confirmed from SAFER: DC665062), 7210-OYA6975, 7211-OYA6976, 7212-OYA6977, 7213-OYA7932, 7214-OYA7945. All these plates come up dry in AutoCheck and similar searches.
The unmatched VINs are: CC665054, 055, 057, 059, 060 (all 2012 buses), then DC665061, then 063-068 (the 2013 buses). All those VINs are confirmed as having vehicle history on AutoCheck so they have to be the NJT buses. I don't think DesignLine placed these anywhere else.
There was no 7215 for DesignLine.
There is also no 7362 CNG MCI D4500CT.... so fix your wikis, gentlemen.
UPDATE: The DesignLine VINs are:
- 7201-7207: 1D9422CNxCC665054-665060
- 7208-7214: 1D9422CNxDC665061-665067
- The undelivered 7215 would have been 1D9422CN3DC665068
3. The high-1500 series Novas NJT got from Academy. I don't have any idea of original fleet numbers, and not all of those buses from the batch Academy got went over to NJT.
UPDATE: These buses are 2001 Nova Bus 82VN's. Academy's original fleet and VINs were:
- 1042-1048: 4RKENTFAx1R835281-835287
- 1049-1058: 4RKENTFAx1R835409-835418
We do have one positive match: Academy 1046 became NJT 1587.
We can track down VINs of current buses if we have their license plates so I'm willing to accept any such data in the form of comments to this post. This will help immensely with the deliveries of the new 17000-series cruisers underway. Thanks for reading!
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